Teus, ? I agree that there is much variety in the Malinois as a breed as far as drives and temperments (not to mention physical characteristics) but by my previous statement, I meant to imply that the Malinois is a serious working dog. That does not mean they should be civil with everyone or not able to live with a family...I too love a clear headed, stable mal that is a working machine! But most families I know cannot deal with the energy level and drive of a good malinois. I know there are many working mal people that have the dog as a house dog but I am talking about 'pet' people. By 'too much' , yes I am looking at the dog from a breeding perspective, but that has become a habit ;-)? I don't like that I am seeing more and more malinois that are unclear, unstable, and cannot handle any pressure. Many of the show malinois I have seen here act like collies, very nervous, fearful, bad character etc. And these dogs are champions in conformation and obedience. They are being bred and I think it is watering down and affecting the breed. Nobody likes overreactive, but I know that I am not looking for dogs with high 'sofa' drive either. If the dog is a great representative of the breed, I see it as a nice thing that he is easy to live with, but it isn't that important. I still believe that malinois are not for everyone, thats why some like gsd's, bulldogs, labs etc. I understand that not all of them are too my liking and I totally respect that. But I also dont want to see a great working dog ruined.
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~Stephanie O'Brien Fat Louie Des Barriques FR III 2007 NARA Overall Domestic Champion
Once i asked dutch trainer that i bought my male pup from how come their (dutch) dogs are so social. Answer i got is; "We do not have use for snarling unstable dog that you can not stand next to on street. We do not need 'wall' dogs."
Yet somehow snarling-can't-stand-next-to dogs seem to be very popular? Very 'fight drivey'.... Uuuu my dog can't get BH because he would eat judge.
Hello, I've been lurking to this forum for quite some time now and I am glad, that I see few familiar (not personally) people around here. Just a brief introduction. I'm Anoy Hermoso and I spent half of my life in a tropical island Philippines, and now probably spending half of it here in a cold and most of the time wet province of British Columbia, Canada. I own DEMA K9 back in the Philippines, (note:site may not work properly with other browser)? and hopefully set up one here in my new adapted country. In the Philippines we have decent amount of good imported (NVBK,FR,MR) dogs, as well as locally bred ones. Unfortunately, those good mechelaars outnumbered qualified handlers and trainers? And unfortunately, also, having a mechelaar in the Philippines is a status symbol ( need not to explain this further).?
Anyways, I perfectly agree with BarriquesNY and Martine ?? And what experienced owners/handlers and mechelaar trainers would suggest, mechelaar is not a good idea for everyone to own. And most of the cases I encountered, people are too naive or egoistic to admit that having a mechelaar is a failure to them.
A good or great trainer has an open mind to all K9 gadgets, or any methods may be available out there. For me, working dog trainer, as well as breeder is an ARTIST. He creates his masterpiece, and being recognise thru his/her masterpiece is an achievement to the art, more so, to the artist himself.
Have a safe training to all! And always train with your brain?
P.S. Please excuse my English and I hope it will not cause confusion to anyone.
Quote:((BTW .. Jeff ... how you manage to get that many smites on your name ??))
I don't know. I think that on boards I come off as harsh, or possibly mean. I think that people take things too personally on boards. I certainly am not sitting here hating anyone. But then, when I talk to people in person they sometimes get the idea that I am a mean person. I am too blunt for sure. I think I was in the Marines too long.LOL Then again, I can't type well so I am not so sure the true meaning of what I am trying to say comes out right. I think if people would relax a bit, and think good thoughts when I reply to them, they would understand me a bit better.
Then again, I can't type well so I am not so sure the true meaning of what I am trying to say comes out right.
That is always the risk with typed text. You cannot put the same emotions in as you do face-to-face using your body language and tone of voice. Don't bother
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He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
For me, working dog trainer, as well as breeder is an ARTIST. He creates his masterpiece, and being recognise thru his/her masterpiece is an achievement to the art, more so, to the artist himself.
So true: you might be the one who understands the meaning of 'sculpadog'?
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
I think if people would relax a bit, and think good thoughts when I reply to them, they would understand me a bit better.
I think indeed the Marines is too blame. Gives a clear explanation. With so many smites and still posting I have picture in mind of Marines on seashore and bell on stakes: "you still don't ring the bell, won't ya .... ?? "?
Indeed people need to relax on forum and read behind the words and try to extract the true meaning instead of scramble with words. So true. Also people telling other what to do and what to post where: this forum exist and so the way is clear.
((when I don't get the meaning of some phrases I will ask you for explanation --- > deal ?!))
I posted a response to this topic yesterday. Does anyone know why it was taken off? I have been posting here for over three months and this has never happened. Just curious as to why my post was removed. Would any of the moderators please send me a PM to explain.
Thank you,
Christian
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"I have come to see my dogs as a reflection of my willingness to try to improve, as well as an unsparing measure of my frequent failures in doing so."
I posted a response to this topic yesterday. Does anyone know why it was taken off? I have been posting here for over three months and this has never happened. Just curious as to why my post was removed. Would any of the moderators please send me a PM to explain.
Thank you,
? ? ? ?Christian
I dont have a clue? , If any moderator remove a post, I should be informed when and why, because I am the administrator here..
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The truth is out there, but so are the lies. - Dana Scully
Christian, I habve had this happen to me here, as well as other boards. I got my reply ready, and I push all the right stuff. I see it come up, but then it is gone. I figure it is internet ghosts having fun.
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And unfortunately, also, having a mechelaar in the Philippines is a status symbol ( need not to explain this further).? 
? And what experienced owners/handlers and mechelaar trainers would suggest, mechelaar is not a good idea for everyone to own. And most of the cases I encountered, people are too naive or egoistic to admit that having a mechelaar is a failure to them.
