Here in Sweden all Belgian Shepherds needs to have qualifications from "working trials" to become a show champion. Is it the same in all other European countries as well?
In Luxembourg you only need 2 CACs if you have a none champion dog and only one if you your dog is already a champion. No work test required.
In the Netherlands, you need 4 CAC (and 4RCAC count as one) under 2 different judges.
In Belgium, you need (at least for BSD) 2 CAC under 2 different judges and a heavy working test (tracking like in IPO, biting like in Belgian ring, obedience and jumping). There needs to be at least one year and one day between the first and the second CAC. But this might change because the work test in Belgium is still not recognised by FCI and therefore is not a valid working test to obtain the title of international champion.
Germany: since 01/09/04 you need 5 VDH-Cha points instead of 4 again with 1 year and 1 day between the first and the last under 3 different judges. No working test is required.
In Denmark, you need 3 CACs but I do not know the timeframe and I believe no workingtest is required.
For the other countries I don't know yet.
Kind regards, Saskia
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Hi, here in switzerland you need 3 CAC's, a workingtest (all test's from the swiss PO are counting) and the swiss selection. Then you can make a belgian shepard to a swiss champion :-) Regards!
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In Finland BSD's needs to get a workingtitle from second level in working trials for example IP2 (you-know-what ), JK2 (tracking), HK2 (search), EK2(special search+tracking), VK2 (message)
to become a show champion. From shows 3 CAC from different judges during 2 different years (=cant become Ch before 2years of age...)
If for example a dog from Netherlands- already a champion of beauty in Netherlands- comes to Finland and gets CAC from show- he/she?ll become Finnish Ch. No matter in this case what country the dog is from or what are the requirements in that country.
Tip: good chance to get this CAC is our special in summer, there are always more than 1 CAC to get. Also- small groupshows around summer and our beautiful country are real opportunities to get CAC from here- there are very few dogs entered and most of them cannot receive CAC no longer.
Same thing goes with Lithuania; if the dog is a champion in his/her own country: it will get Lt Ch -title if it gets CAC -BUT it has to be the Best bitch or male. Also you have to stay in group competition- otherwise the Kennel club of Lithuania wont give the Championshiptitle.
Also you have to consider to take a certificate of already admitted championtitle with you- then you can request the champion title already when there. Copy of registration paper also needed. If your dog is not yet any champion, you have to plea for the champion title afterwards- after your dog gets the title in his/her own country.
Saskia; if and when my dog is Int & Fin & Est & S & Lt Ch, do I still need 4 CAC from Netherlands to become NL Ch ??
In what class should I enter her into (in NL) when in Finland I have qualification for a) working class b) champion class and c) veteran class ?? Oona is 9 yo now (in Finland age to VEt class is and has certificate from Finnish Kennelclub that she can be entered in working class at all shows in FCI countries.
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As far as I know they still need 4 CACs in the Netherlands. You can enter in all 3 classes providing that there is a veterans class but I believe that this is only the case at specialty shows.
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The best class to enter is Champions class, because if the judge cannot make a decision most of the time the champiosclass winner gets CAC and yes you need 4 CAC or 3 CAC together with 4 R.CAC.
Workingdog class is more easy to win but what I wrote above the judges prefer Champions class.
Veteran class only at specialty and worlddog show for CAC
To become Lithuanian show champion you must get 5 CAC in local shows or 3 CAC if 1 of them are from international show. Or 1 CAC and best male/female if you have international champ as birdie told. But if you want get permition for breeding male must have at least 3 marks as "perfect" from diferent judges and once a year must get the same "perfect" at some show which is very stupid and I hope we gonna change that somehow. And bitch must have 3 marks "very good" and both must have passed IPOB trial and phyche test.
In North America unfortunatly, your dog can be blind, cripple and crazy and still get a confirmation championship and still be allowed to breed and be registered, that is why American lines are not even worth 1cent because the copper to print it would be to expensive. EU is the way to go, Because really what is a confirmation title without requiring the dog to work, then that little confirmation title without a working title means the same as a AKC hey my dog is breathing title.
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Now Chris I guess it is safe to say you do not care for American Belgians , but you are stretching the truth here......Belgians can not be blind, cripple or crazy and get the titles.......If the dog does not allow the judge to touch it or acted crazy they would be disqualied from the ring..........I would also like to point out to you, that there is not such thing as American lines, all Belgians in the states come from European lines to begin with, past & present...here are the names of just a few; Barraque de Planches, Chemin des Dames, De lamara, Forges Monceux & Mount Sara to name just a few.........
I would also like to point out to you, that in the states we probably do more testing on our dogs, then anywhere else....They are tested for HD, Elbows & eyes(PRA) and most people have submitted DNA samples to help develop the test for Epilepsy.....
Chris go ahead and dislike the American dogs, just get your facts correct .....We should all be in the breed for the love of them and try to work together instead of pointing fingers.......as there are lots of imperfect Belgians all over the world and that includes your part of the world
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), JK2 (tracking), HK2 (search), EK2(special search+tracking), VK2 (message)
and has certificate from Finnish Kennelclub that she can be entered in working class at all shows in FCI countries.
I guess it is safe to say you do not care for American Belgians 
.....We should all be in the breed for the love of them and try to work together instead of pointing fingers.......as there are lots of imperfect Belgians all over the world and that includes your part of the world
