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Du Boscaille
« on: March 05, 2005, 07:55:18 PM »

Hello! Wanted to learn more about the qualities of mals from this kennel. What are some of the good dogs from this kennel accomplishing in the sports? Any information would be appreciated.
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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2005, 09:50:25 PM »

Hello Juan

Did you now that the kennel "Du Boscaille" is not breeding any more. One off the last litters was in 1999. The owner from the kennel died in a traffic accident. His wife tried to go further but she hasn't got the stranged to do this.
But some good "du Boscaille" dogs where. Kim du Boscaille, Ytro du Boscaille, Espoir du Boscaille,
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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2005, 09:55:14 PM »

But there is still one breeder in France who breeds 100 % "du Boscaille". Du Boscaille dogs are normaly big dogs and sharp. In holland was one he was very good. His Name was Novak du Boscaille. And an other one is, but very old is Vainquer du Boscaille. I hope igave you enough info.

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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2005, 12:31:20 AM »

Hi Bjorn,
Do you have a contact of the kennel that still breeds the lines of Boscaille in France that you speak of? Also when you refer to the lines as "sharp" , are you talking about being "edgy" or "suspicious"? Thanks again.
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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2005, 05:32:57 PM »

we own a female out of the kennel in Belgium that breeds 100% Boscaille (du Bois de la Limite),
she is completely linebred to Kim du Boscaille, at this moment she is 10 months old and she is developing pretty well, but I can't call her "sharp"
she is really stable, has a good full grip and doesn't like strangers (but if she knows you, you can't do anything wrong Grin)
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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2005, 05:35:39 PM »

link to the kennel du Bois de la Limite

and our female from that kennel is Daisy (Delwyn) du Bois de la Limite, you can find her on our website.
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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2005, 06:10:44 PM »

Hello,

I've been talking a lot about du Boscaille with some off my ring friends and they tell me the same as Bjorn says.


Sharp and big.

On the other hand they tell me du boscaille dogs are or really good or ............

A friend off mine has a real boscaille female and she is though stubborn, an let's say not a nice dog to have.

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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2005, 07:15:33 PM »

What are the origins of du Boscaille line?

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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2005, 07:33:00 PM »

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Hello,

I've been talking a lot about du Boscaille with some off my ring friends and they tell me the same as Bjorn says.


Sharp and big.

On the other hand they tell me du boscaille dogs are or really good or ............

A friend off mine has a real boscaille female and she is though stubborn, an let's say not a nice dog to have.

regards.

JVG



Dewlyn is not really big (but she is only 10 months old), she is about 24 kilo and 60 cm high

she is tough and stubborn, BUT for her own people a really nice dog to have, even though she doesn't see me that much at this moment (due to my education I'm not at home during the week) I don't have any problems connecting with her, the though stubborn part of her character is also a part that gives her a lot of stability
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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2005, 08:33:52 PM »

Hi Carmen,
Thanks for the information. I think she looks wonderful and both your females are very nice in their pedigrees. I believe there's a half brother to your young female from Tornado that is very succesful in FR.  I personally like dogs that are a bit sharp as this gives them just the right edge to tap onto to bring out proper aggression for IPO. I've seen both the sharpness and the toughness from the line and yes, it's one extreme to the other. Maybe not the best for ring? Are there any doing BR?
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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2005, 08:40:37 PM »

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I personally like dogs that are a bit sharp as this gives them just the right edge to tap onto to bring out proper aggression for IPO. I've seen both the sharpness and the toughness from the line and yes, it's one extreme to the other. Maybe not the best for ring? Are there any doing BR?
Juan


Can you elaborate this


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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2005, 09:40:18 PM »

Hi Johan,
I think that when you have a dog that has a little bit of suspiciousness, but is nurtured to be confident by proper development and exposure to his environment when young and growing up, then you can have a dog that can be worked like a GSD, started more on defense (aggression) as a type of approach used in IPO . Defense makes them more intense in their bite pressure.  

My comment for the ring was that since there is more prey movements in the sport of ring , iperhaps it is possible that it would be more difficult to work a dog that's too sharp [more defensive] in prey.  Although I am not certain how the puppies or young dogs are started for BR.

A majority of the dogs that I've witness were to the extreme of really sure, confident dogs from the Boscaille dogs. Excellent hunt, possesiveness, agility and desire and some handler aggresssion (not for the weak heart). I've also seen a young police dog that would bite you without provocation and with very little pre warning.

Overall, I've liked what I've seen so far, Much more so than the bad ones. But then again, it seems that a majority of the good malis are either good and gets better in time or not worth keeping.
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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2005, 10:31:32 PM »

In some big part I don't agree with you. iff you have a good helper in IPO on a trial he will select the dogs and when your dog has this "weakness" that sharpness the dog is going from the arm and I know because i have seen it happen due to other helpers and due ro my hand as a helper in IPO.
But to come back to your du boscaille dogs a friend off mine has a du boscaille female. And he breeds with her.
The name off this dog is Yala du Boscaille. Iff you are interesting a could send you the link. He breeds with an excellent Des Deux Pottois male.
Bjorn

P.s. i don't like dogs that bite there own handlers. Than there is something wrong in there heads.
A malinois should defense his owner not eat them up.
And i don't mind a little resistance, but iff a dog attacks his own handler with out any warning.......hmm
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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2005, 11:29:17 PM »

I have to agree with Bjorn on this one. I had a Boscaille female a few years back and she was "sharp" a little on the nervy side. very chewy on the bite  on a strong helper would take advantage of that. The strongest bites are when the dog is in "prey" mode.

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Re: Du Boscaille
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2005, 11:47:41 PM »

About the origins, from du boscaille,

well he is been known to have a double book,

That means the real pedigrees, and the official pedigrees.


So I can't tell you the real origins.

these Boscaille dogs are used a lot in Walonie.

Maybe you can look over there for more info.

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