I know that Stoned van de Duvetorre gives Tervueren through and Zarcot from the owner Ludo Dergent gives allso tervueren through. Zarcot is at the kennel "van Kempens Glorie". This dog has nothing too do with Elgos. And there is G'Bang de la Virginie and Dusty Du Clos Savoie both these dogs give tervueren through and there is Nero vom Haus Antverpa out off his bloodline are allso tervueren bred. I hope i gave you enough info.
I?ve got 4 tervs out of mals in 2 litters. 2 out of these 4 has already been used to breeding and 3rd will be. Combinations can be found from Kennel Karmanjakas website karmanjakas.com (barnbarn->Kiron->Nallehukan Oona and Nallehukan Rininja) Questenberg Masai is the nearest terv in pedigree.
Both Oona (Xilly?s Flying Start x Hasardi du Mas de La Galandie) and Rininja (L?kkerg?rdens Franco Raoul x Hasardi du Mas de La Galandie) also had tervs in their litters. One male from Oonas litter has been used for breeding by kennel Cousin?s.
Kennel Pois Kottoo in Finland has few tervs also.
Kennel Stenholdt in Denmark also has at least one. Boholdts Taco leaves long hair.
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I have gotten Tervs out of Malinois in a number of litters
Henzo de la Ailzallerie x Isis du Dantero Henzo de la Ailzallerie x Zara vd Berlex-Hoeve Fenrizo du Dantero x Dantero's Red River Rapids Rytmo des deux Pottois x Zara vd Berlex-Hoeve
I also owned a Terv out of Malinois from Duc du Creux Thatcher x Halley du Chenil Victoire
I have a litter from Rytmo (Raptor) x Zara right now, I believe 1 female is a Terv and possibly 1 male. This is a repeat, and there was a Terv in the first litter also.
The most current photos on the web of Topsy are at http://members.aol.com/malndobe/topsy.htm He was 6 or 7 months in the photos. He's 8 months old now. He has more furnishing's now, I'll try to get some more photos of him on his site this weekend. Based on his current coat growth, I expect him to look a lot like Stormy as an adult Kind of shorter coat in the body, with long furnishings around the head/neck, on the legs and on the tail. Like a lot of the old photos of Terv's show. There are lots of I litter photos at http://members.aol.com/malndobe/litteri.htm 3 pages worth, you have to use the links to move from page to page. All the pups except Topsy were Malinois. I the J litter I"m positive this female is a Terv and I think this male might be also They were 2 weeks in these pics, I am replacing these pics with 3 week pictures this weekend that will show the coat differences better.
??In the J litter I"m positive this female is a Terv
I updated the photos on my website of the J litter, so the ones in the post above are no longer valid. The female I believe is a Terv is the yellow collared one. The male(s) I'm suspicious might be Tervs are the blue and purple ones, but they may just be heavier coated Malinois like their father. I'll know in another week with them, but the female is already obviously longer haired.
In my first malinois litter there was 4 tervueren (out of 8 puppies). The father was Boholdts Tjaikovskij who is now dead. He is Danish and International Champion, has IPO3 and FCI-SPH (tracking test). I know that his littermate Taco also gave tervueren.
That is the most common dogs in Denmark out of show-lines who has given terv puppies.
Main factor behind todays long haired working malinois is Atos (G'Bibber - Onde du Spacieux Vallon) and his descendants, like stud matadors, Elgos du Chemin des Plaines and Dusty du Clos Savioe. You can find Atos and Atos lineage behind almost every present working line tervueren.