The only serious breeders of working Laekenois are Johann Weckhuyzen, van de Duvetorre kennel: http://www.vandeduvetorre.be , who mainly breeds Malinois, but also has recessive Tervuerens in his Malinois litters now and then. These too would probably be suitable for those keen on training and competing with a Tervueren in IPO and Ringsport. Then there is the van de Lobohoeve kennel in Holland http://home.hetnet.nl/%7enicoswee/Laekense%20Herders.htm
One is becoming increasingly irritated by the ignorance and lack of knowledge of some of those contributing to this forum. How come those of you who live in Belgium don't know this and how can they seriously contribute to, never mind moderate a forum dedicated to the Belgian Shepherd, when they don't even know who Johan Weckhuyzen is!? (And please don't pretend that you now all of a sudden know who he is!!!)
Johan Weckhuyzen just also happens to be the President of the World Union of Belgian Shepherd Dog Clubs. So, I would be cautious and respectful if I were to contact him. I doubt he has time for fools.
Jos van Kerckhoven with his Laekenois Quichotte van de Duvetorre competed in the FCI IPO World Championships for a number of years. I have seen an amateur video of the FCI IPO WC at Bredene in Belgium in 1995, in which Quichotte participated. Quichotte is quite spectacular to watch. He is so big and strong that he shakes the helpers around as if they were rag dolls. He also hits extremely and spectacularly hard on the long attack - otherwise his is a rather clumsy performance, but what a super, super dog!!!
The Laekenois was, to our great shame, almost destroyed with the stroke of the pen, when the idiots who revised the Breed Standard in 1898/99 decided to reject the fawn coloured rough-haired. These are the same criminals who wrote the black, brindle and grey short-hair out of the standard, and also decided to penalise the grey Tervueren.
I think it is high time we start a movement to turn the clock back to revise the standard to what it was before these insane revisions.
Dark ash grey for the rough-haired The very characteristic fawn coloured rough-haired and homogeneous group of shepherd dogs belonging to shepherd J.-B. Jansen from Laeken was rejected. Dark ash grey was preferred, even though at that period only two such dogs existed belonging to Mr. A. Claessens.
This choice would reveal itself to be an error of Professor Adolphe Reul. Perhaps he was influenced by the owners of the dark ash grey? They were active members of the Club du Chien de Berger Belge, where shepherd Jansen could understand and talk Flemish. Why were the other colours rejected? Why were the brindled, the pale fawn, the isabel-coloured and the black short haired discouraged? A lot of fine dogs whose colour did not correspond with the new standard were ousted from the exhibitions. This provoked dissatisfaction that still has repercussions today. A great deal of good but other coloured reproducers were relinquished. Among these were the brindled as was testified by the first international dog show organised by the Kynos Club from Li?ge. The event was judged by Professor Adolphe Reul on 22, 23 and 24 April 1899. The first prize in the open class for the short haired was attributed to Fox, a brindled dog belonging to A. Braconnier. The second place was taken by Malitou, a black short haired dog with a white spot on the chest.
The victims founded the Berger Belge Club in 1898 That is how the fawn long-haired, the fawn rough-haired, as well as the Malinois with pale fawn coat and almost white undercoat no long appeared in the show ring. All these types that were formerly loaded with medals and prizes have been sacrificed as Belgian shepherd dogs. Should we not notice a predominance of the capital over the province in this debarment from the Club du Chien de Berger Belge against the dogs of the Malines section? Nevertheless, the majority of these pale yellowish dogs did not entirely discourage this group of fanciers. One of them mated Cora I (LOSH 6134), who had very light overlay, with Tomy to Mr. H. Segers of Brussels. From the first attempt he obtained Tjop (LOSH 6132). Tjop was born on 1 November 1899 and combined all the qualities required by the Club: elegance, presence and a beautiful deep fawn colour. Like his father he had little mask but more overlay than him. The following two publications on the Laekenois may still be available:
How verry nice to have at least one immodest, irritated person on this forum who knows everything and does not hesitate to call all others fools. Maybe it's better not to wait giving your nice commends untill your this irritated and trie to be more polite next time.
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
As was to be expected, the usual erudite and knowledgeable contribution from these two esteemed members, who always feel compelled to have to put in their 5 cents worth about subjects they know nothing about, and think that ignorance is a virtue and knowledge a vice.
Their snotty posts speak for themselves.
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Because the judge is finnish guy and 1995 I was giving my fields to the japanese competitor, who got 100pts from tracking.... and also Quichotte, Johan and others were training at our club...
But I recall it was not in Belgium on 1995. I was there! But maybe South Africa has different calendars...
Whoops... but I am just snarky pakeha, a fool in wrong ring... sorry....
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i think i have at this moment a very fine working laekenois. His father is the off spring of quichot en his mothers ancesters are for two generation back al fine ipo and knpv certified dutch dogs. At this moment this dog is exactly 8 months old, 63 cm of hide en 27 kg. So he getting quite firm. He already bites on the hard sleeve with a real nice drive and firm full grip. He is social but with a nice sharpnes which makes him very suitebel for working. Watch out you will hear from him since he is also a very good looking dog to . And for me also important with lots of garnishmend on the head, The type you saw on de dutch/belgium border arround de sixtys
If I were looking for a sport Laekenois at this time there are a few people I would contact. Johan Weckhuyzen in Belgium is of course one, Linnea Sekobon (kennel Vajert) in Sweden is another. And with a little more digging you may find other interesting individuals to talk to.
In most cases I'd personally be looking for a breeding with Malinois fairly close. In Switzerland you have the many titled Flip vom Albinsblick SchH3 SanH3 BH3 LawH, a son of Uwe von Lowenfels. The kennel Sybrillaume has done at least one IV breeding producing Santana, a bitch Laekenois that competed at the '04 Mondioring championships in level 2 who I believe is a daughter of Jorkan. There is also Derrick Von Der Schillingswarthe VPG3, a grandson of Quichot.
The key is knowing what you're looking for in a sport dog, I think. I lean towards highly social, "sporty" dogs. Others prefer a more serious dog. I do think it is a bit easier to find a serious, sharp Laekenois...I just don't find that ideal for me or for sport.
I co-own a Laekenois bred by Johan, Ulu van de Duvetorre. She is a highly accomplished herding, flyball, agility, tracking, and obedience dog, but is not a sport dog. She has one son with a SchH2, and another training in Schutzhund in the US.
The other thing to consider with Laekenois is health checks. It is much more customary to check hips, elbows and eyes in the Scandinavian countries, and in a breed like the Laekenois, that matters. It would be very disappointing to put a lot of effort into training for sport only to find the dog crippled with bad elbows or going blind by age three.
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. And for me also important with lots of garnishmend on the head, The type you saw on de dutch/belgium border arround de sixtys
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