Register for epileptic belgians!

[Supernova]

 In the previous epilepsy discussion was already brought up that is is important to be open about this health problem that is causing trouble for our four legd friends.

You can make a difference by registring your dog on this site if she/he has epilepsy!
http://www.belgiskehyrdehunde.dk/epelisi/Engelsk.htm

From this link you can see all belgians that already exist on the list!
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/shadowlands/epliste/epliste.htm

How great it would be if all breeders and owners would give out information about epilepsy in their dogs?! It would show that they truly care for this wonderful breed of ours!! 

Please inform others about this registry and if you have a homepage add a link to the site!!

[Maylis]

I transmitted the message on the French forum of the Belgian shepherd.

We know certain stallion of the list which have already reproduced, and I hope that the breeders  will put their dog epileptic on the list.
So long

[Maylis]

Here the bond where we speak about it: http://bergersbelgespassion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3921&start=15

It is in a debate on the “sujets recommandés” in France. It is at the end of the page where one speaks about it.

[Supernova]

Thank you Maylis! Nice of you to do that!

I visited the french site but  I cannot understand much  mmm.... Maybe I should start studying more french since I now live in Canada wohoo...

[Jenni]

How much epilepsy is talked, known and admitted in France? (Or Holland, Belgium and Germany) When I look at the pedigrees on that list (big praise and hallelujah, that someone finally made a public list!  ) it is extremely hard for me to believe, that there is nothing to worry about.

Very funny part in the whole epilepsy-discussion in Finland is that it is named to be a problem with TERVS especially. Ummm... my list consists over 400 groenendaels and around 300 tervs and the same tendance seems to be on the danish list. Also most of the seizuring tervs are born from mainly groenendael-based lines-what you can verify also from danish list.

What has happened back there? This is a problem, but how to get into the point of pedigrees? Inbreeding doesn't explain it, seems more that seizuring dogs have certain dogs close in their pedigrees, and as far as I have managed to gather information, there are very well known dogs as ancestors - who are also mentioned  being seizuring at their time. If this is true, we are really in deep "poop"

J

[Supernova]

I think the reson for epilepsy becoming such a problem is neglection from breeders back in days...
The same thing can be seen today too in Finland in blacks when the problem with testicles is growing just in few years. Breeders are neglecting the fact that both parents have the problem in their lines and still combine them!

I think if breeders would stick to the guideline that problems in the siblings of the breeding dogs, and their parents and their siblings should be considered well enough to deside if the dog is good enough for breeding, there would be better chanses to prevent any kind of health issue of becoming a growing problem in the breed. I dont say that even then there would not possibly come out some sh*t but the chanses of getting better litters would for sure be greater.

Then one thing is to have the stomach not to breed an intended breeding dog if the health risk seems to be too big! As well not to breed a mentally instabile dog... Ao often its in the end about money. You imported a bitch took it to the shows, did all the health checks, compeated to get some merits and there is a risk occuring for breeding... how big how small you as a breeder have a choise to make. Its not easy to let all the plans get flushed away but sometimes it should be done.

Here just some of my thoughts about it...