Well i dont get that either, you can do tricks with any dog. And that you can not do it with belgian, even the toughest one, i think would make you a very bad trainer. Work is work, no matter what you wont from him. Of course tricks are fun, since most of us do it with only positive methods, so every dog realy loves it. We do bow, roll over, turn around, one paw up or the other, baging like yours sculpa and at the moment working on walking backwords. From time to time I do heeling on the right to. I also introduced when heeling going a few staps back, but that is just that he really gets that heeling he has to pay attention and allways know his position according to me.
Yes it can be hard to stick to IPO only. It is a really fun dogsport, me and Warga enjoy it a lot, but it can be a bit monotonous sometimes :-/
I'm really interested also in the scandinavian forest search, we tryied it once last winter and Warga loved it a lot
The only problem is that you have to have a traininggroup and it takes up lots from your freetime, as well as IPO do. Maybe when I finish studying, get a drivers licence and a car I can start finding a group.
I also have had some plans to learn warga "wildlifetracking". That's when someone has shot an animal that didn't die or some animal got hit by a car and run away. By swedish law all hurt wild animals has to be found and killed so they don't suffer of pain. The police or the hunter then contacts civilians who have dogs trained for that kind of tracking.
There's so much fun you can do with your dog, not to forget about agility and stuff. The problem is to have time to do all you want.
Maja, I think you're right, even the "thoughest" dogs should be able to learn tricks. The only problem would be if a dog has a too bad memory, but then you can't train IPO either with such a dog
And my Warga is a quite soft dog, even if she often thinks she is the queen of the world and now has some "teenageattitude" but she is quite easy to handle.
There's so much fun you can do with your dog, not to forget about agility and stuff. The problem is to have time to do all you want.
exactly... -time is one factor. -having a dog eager to learn tricks. -IPO is very much energy and time consuming...when you want to polish the dog/team to perfection.
I teach dogs trick... but not with Kay... he wouldn't like it much I think -- me not either with Kay--... : we are doing great at IPO program and we loves it: we keep it simple (Kay and me) and stuck to the program exercises.
Maja: what I did respect of Hoppsan: young, student, nice malinois and already very eager and talented... I don't see much people like that anymore !!
I do applaude multi training... but after Funky I find it hard to motivate myself again to do that all with one dog -time, money and energy-.
Some hunters don't have their own dogs, but then they have to know someone who has a dog that is available and can come and do the tracking if something goes wrong.
I'm flattered that you think it's impressive with a young student who like dogtraining. In Sweden it is very common that young people train and compete with dogs. I don't find myself very special, there is people in my age that have been competing MR abroad already or been competing in the swedish shampionships in various sports. Before it was mostly middle aged people that did defence programs, but nowdays you see quite a lot of young girls and boys in their 20's that do the swedish defenceprogram, IPO or MR. But the problem is that there is still no MR competitions in Sweden because the swedish dogsportclub and kennelclub doesn't approve the program.
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Before it was mostly middle aged people that did defence programs, but nowdays you see quite a lot of young girls and boys in their 20's that do the swedish defenceprogram, IPO or MR.
Well...Holland has a hard time to motivate young people, so I am surprised to learn about this young development there !! ((however I am not that old :-) ))
The same is true for me. In my company (around 250 people), there are only 2 people interested in dogs although some of my collegues show interest in what I do with Yentos.
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Because at a lot off clubs there is still the mentality that when a dog isn't good enough you have to get rid off him or don't come back.
That is one of the reasons why I quit BR although I like the sport.
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Ithink that one off the problems is that the dogs are being looked at as aggresive and antisocial same for the trainers.
That is the perception indeed and it is hard to explain to people that they are wrong. Yentos became a better, more social and less of a hazard after training BR. He became a moer self-assured dog. But when you tell people they don't believe that.
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Well...Holland has a hard time to motivate young people, so I am surprised to learn about this young development there !! ((however I am not that old ))
I have been teaching obedience to children as young as 10. The only condition was that they started with a puppy. This way we could teach children how to behave with a dog and teach them the basic do's and don't's and it was much appreciated by parents. Here in Belgium children from the age of 14 can start in obedience.
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He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
The same is true for me. ?In my company (around 250 people), there are only 2 people interested in dogs although some of my collegues show interest in what I do with Yentos.
...not the same for me... Many people around me -neighbourhoods, friends, my family and even people from Jessica's job (my wife's company) are interested in my dogs. Most of the people try to keep track of who is who and even does ask how 'their dog' - cause favorite - are doing at new homes. My neighbourhood never stop asking abbout them, like last night party. They even love demo's I give for them: public training or small demo's at fair, public meetings and so....
Those demo's are wonderful training and shows what my dogs truly are: social easy dogs but yet powerful and serious. I have learned about the value of demo's in USA where police dept. gives demo's at school and public meetings.
I think if more, if not all sport people, just would give demo and not brag about the training and work, the powerful bite or spectacular moments, non-sport people will become interested in the dogs and build up a kind of bond and build respect.
Me myself am not -not!- interested in the engine of cars, custom cars, horsepower and such stuff. But yet it doesn't mean I can't show interest in the race or the look of those custom cars. I like to meet custom car people ((especially in NYC..they are quite fun ! Like at the Funk Master Flex custom car show)) but if they keep on talking about engine and technical stuff: they have lost me right away! Yeah, then I think them freaks too, like many people think dog sport people are freaks.
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I have been teaching obedience to children as young as 10. ?The only condition was that they started with a puppy. ?This way we could teach children how to behave with a dog and teach them the basic do's and don't's and it was much appreciated by parents. ?Here in Belgium children from the age of 14 can start in obedience.
Actually 29-8-2004 the NBG organized the first training camp for youth.
At the moment many people are serious planning camps and classes for kids and young people. But in Holland it's very new and still not enough young people are interested.
KNPV also bumped onto this problem and introduced Basic certificate a few years ago. Children could train their own dog and when 16 years old they can go get certificate their dog themselves on basic certificate. But still a few kids have done this.
Because at a lot off clubs there is still the mentality that when a dog isn't good enough you have to get rid off him or don't come back.
No wonder people aren't attracted of dogsports... That's not gonna rescue the sports... naturally people if they get interested in a dogsport with their first dog (which maybe often doensnt have the right working capacity) they learn what is needed for a good dog and search more carefully for the next one. But they first of all need to get interested in the sport and for that they need help and support whatever dog they have...
Here in Sweden we have a dogclub that's for kids and young people between 7 and 25. Local clubs arrange courses, camps, competitions and other fun things. Obedience and agility are really popular for young people but also the national dogsports. The whole club is run of young people who hold the courses and everything. When I was 16 I went to a course to become a teacher of a obediencecourse and after that I had courses for puppies and young dogs with owners aged 8 and up. When 18, I was the president of our local youth dogclub, that was really fun. In sweden you can compete everything when you are at least twelve, also IPO and there is swedish championships for people under 25. For agility I don't think there is any agelimit
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