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aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in europe
« on: December 22, 2004, 11:25:42 AM »

hi all,

i have a couple of excellent mals and i have been wanting to get out of the technology business and take on a dog handling career where i can work with dogs every day making a difference but alas ive been looking for a number of years and i am no closer to finding that. im starting to get to the point of wondering if im ever going to be able to fulfil my life dream of being an active professional handler.

unfortunately it seems in this country there is no way to gain professioanl experience unless you join the air force and stand in front of a hangar for years so i am looking overseas to build up my people contacts and ideas of places in the world that are looking for handler recruits that would allow me to go there and rapidly build up a wealth of on the job experience (eg israel)

i will be in europe (holland belgium germany france italy austria) for 3 weeks in feb, i was hoping to make contact with some malinois breeders and have a bit of a chit chat and meet the dogs and just see how you guys do things in europe and if there are any ideas they might have on where i could go or who i could speak to about trying to ge the foot in the door.

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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2004, 02:20:29 PM »

Hi,
I hope you have luck! You are always welcome to Sweden as well:)
There is as many different training methods as there are Kennels(dog people) Try to get impression from as many "sides" ?as possible.
I have seen horrible things in Holland, Belgium as well as good things..
E-collar is common, kicking and beating the dog is also common in some clubs, obedience in bitework is many times a "joke" (compared to what I am used to)
Grin
Butmany people are extremly god at teaching the dogs how to bite:) Thats a positive side:)
(The controlside of bitework  is worse, many are using e-collars instead of the brain) Thera are definately exeptions and not all people train like that...
Just make sure you get to see it all and dont get stuck in "one way" of thinking:)
Good Luck
Marie


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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2005, 06:03:05 AM »

Hello,

Try to contact Bjorn. He is one of the best ( if not the best) IPO decoy in holland.

He and his friend Ingrid are real mali data-bases.

They can help you out some more.

You can also come by so you can see some off my breeding and show you some KNPV, Belgian or mondioring.

grtz.

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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2005, 12:10:38 PM »

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Hello,

Try to contact Bjorn. He is one of the best ( if not the best) IPO decoy in holland.

He and his friend Ingrid are real mali data-bases.

They can help you out some more.

You can also come by so you can see some off my breeding and show you some KNPV, Belgian or mondioring.

grtz.

JVG


hey,

that would be awesome, i would love to stop by! Smiley it would be worlds apart from what is found in australia i think. the way i see it it's a passion, ill never be able to learn too much and id love to just sit down and have a chat and a coffee with breeders and people in the know and just learn more interesting things.

as for bjorn, sounds wonderful, do you have an email address or url i can make contact?

thank you thank you thank you thank you Smiley
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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2005, 02:41:19 PM »

Hi,

Bjorn is member of this forum. His website is:

http://www.kennel-sas-van-gent.com


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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2005, 12:07:27 PM »

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Bjorn is member of this forum. His website is:

http://www.kennel-sas-van-gent.com


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i dont suppose you have a phone number or email address? iill be over there as of this weekend id love to meet and perhaps see bjorn in action but i cant seem to find any contact details on his site?

any info appreciated Smiley
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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2005, 05:42:42 PM »

Hi Matt!

Well at top of his web page (english version) there is info:

Tel. 0031-(0)76 514 97 01
GSM  0031-(0)6 128 59 103

and emails:

sas-van-gent@gmx.de
vanstalle.bjorn@lycos.nl

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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2005, 12:39:44 AM »

Hi MJC,

It would be nice when you come and visit Europe in Februarie. Let me know something then we can make some plans. I could invite a friend off mine Geert Verlinden and off course JVG, when he like to come too our club Grin Grin. I know allso some people from Germany and my girlfriend knows allso some people from Denmark and some from france. But I think JVG has more contact too France than I do.
keep in touch
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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2005, 03:21:05 PM »

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Hi MJC,

It would be nice when you come and visit Europe in Februarie. Let me know something then we can make some plans. I could invite a friend off mine Geert Verlinden and off course JVG, when he like to come too our club Grin Grin. I know allso some people from Germany and my girlfriend knows allso some people from Denmark and some from france. But I think JVG has more contact too France than I do.
keep in touch
Bjorn


hi bjorn this is fantastic i would have given you a call already but i have had some minor troubles getting my laptop working as my regular laptop crashed the day before i got on the plane!! i'm at tull en't waal at the moment and ill be here until tuesday, i will give you a call this evening and maybe have a chat and see what we can organise, it would be great just to learn some good pointers about where i  can go see belgians in action and their history etc  Smiley

i will give you a call this evening and hopefully have a chat!! Smiley talk soon

thanks heaps bjorn!

kind regards

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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2005, 03:42:59 AM »

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Hi MJC,

It would be nice when you come and visit Europe in Februarie. Let me know something then we can make some plans. I could invite a friend off mine Geert Verlinden and off course JVG, when he like to come too our club Grin Grin. I know allso some people from Germany and my girlfriend knows allso some people from Denmark and some from france. But I think JVG has more contact too France than I do.
keep in touch
Bjorn


hi bjorn its rather late we ended up getting busier than we expected today in amsterdam, i will try and give you a call in the morning and touch base Smiley

kind regards

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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2005, 11:33:42 PM »

Hi Matt,

I hope you received my e-mail. But iff you are interesting you are invited to come at our club in Tilburg.
We train tomorrow from 18:30 / 19:00 till 22:30 / 23:00.
Let me know something i could send you a direction plan. Iff you don't have much time there are some interesting clubs in Germany. For the moment is that Heuwinkel it is the club where Micheal Mannhart trains with his dog Aika der Sonne Entgegen it is near M?nchen. And there is the club Leutenbach that is the club from Markus Neutz it is near Stuttgart.
Maybe I heer from you.
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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2005, 11:59:05 PM »

Hi matt,

Are you coming back too the Netherlands or do you leave from were your last stop is?
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Re: aussie hoping to visit malinois breeders in eu
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2005, 12:08:33 PM »

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Hi matt,

Are you coming back too the Netherlands or do you leave from were your last stop is?


hi bjorn it was such a disappointment i didnt get to catch up with you because of various issues. unfortunately we didnt come back to nl, we continued throughout europe and back to australia from rome. that said my partner go to see a lot of her family in netherlands she hasnt seen since she was a child its created a lot of bonds and im sure we will be back in the near future. i will make sure i am well prepared before hand Smiley
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