A few years ago I wrote an topic about IPO is healthy or not for the dog, aspecialy the defencework. Now many people wil think there you have him again always negative and so on. But now i was last week in Le Touquet Paris -plage at the W.C. FMBB and there I saw Ipo and mondio-ring. After i saw some dogs in the IPO I AM VERY HAPPY THAT I TRAIN MONDIO-RING. Because the decoys where that bad. 17 injured dogs, 17. And that i know off 4 who are badly injured. It started on thursday with the demo-dog afer the defence part the dog came from the field with an broken tail, Aika vom Drachenhertz broken chestbone and 2 dislocated nekbones, A dog from Tchechik republick his hindleg is broken, the W.C from last year Prowaffes Artuu damage behind leg and another dog from Finland allso injured, a dog from Holland injured. They were So injured that they couldnot continue there work. Now I think the problem is , is that the decoy's thought they were god and could handle very fast or try other things tht they never had done dogs or what my opinion is there technick is to bad and very low experience in being a decoy. And than i come back in my first topic in every country must be a really good training for decoy's and iff there is an W.CH. and the decoy's from that country aren't good enough fly in decoy's who can do his job. I think and maybe some more people don't like to invest 3 to 4 years in his dog and many training hours to let your dog be badly injured by some decoy who thinks he can handle everything. I was trying to be a particepent at 3 trails in Holland but because off the decoy's I will not compete. My dog doesn't deserve to get injured and who is going to pay the vet bill? Now these decoy's from the W.Ch told my girlfiend she inteviewed them that some dogs where allready injured before they started defence work... yeah wright. The decoy from the part from friday didn't come back on saturday but the guy from the 2nd part could stay away to in my eyes and in many other eyes to. It is a shame for the sport that you must look at the decoy's before you will compete and it is allso the problem off the judges who protect these kind off decoy's instead off protecting the dogs(I only know 1 judge who does this, sending a decoy away when he is doing a bad job he is from Belgium) In IPO you should know in the long atack and the back transport the dog i going to be swing-out not JAMNED but now adays i dont know that. If i want that my dog got jamned i can do KNPV. Greetings Bjorn
p.s. look at he pictures and films what i mean http://www.octaviusmalidaj.cz/ look under aktuality and than"MS BO 2007 Trochu Jinak" The dog on the picture when you enter the site was the one with the broken leg.
I saw this video yesterday on a GSD site. The video made me cringe and was hard to watch. You would think that at a World Championship, they could get a real decoy that knew what they were doing.
I saw the video today at some other dog forum, and I couldn't help bursting out in tears... The dog from Slovenia had to be put asleep I heard, because she broke her chest bone and neck joints. The sound of her crying.... I don't know much about the IPO sport, but what I saw breaks my heart. Those incredible courageous dogs who are still biting despite of their injuries... But there has to be something done about people in the sleeve who (in my opinion) caused all these injuries. It shouldn't be possible that these people are responsible for this many injuries with the dogs, in a big event such as a World Championship for Belgian Shepherds.
How sad this all is. I watched the video and I could not believe how idiotic people can be and how they can get these amateur decoys for events like this. I would sue the decoys ass after this and he would get a punch on his face from me right there, destroying other peoples dogs... grrrrrrrr
When I watched the video I forgot to close my mouth and all hair on my body was rising. So much training for nothing!
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To add something I didnīt notice last time.. As you can see on this picture from first video there is a smile on judgeīs face while dog limps off with broken leg.. (it was noticed by Ladislav Mach owner of Octavius Malidaj).
I checked arround a little bit about Aika but havenīt found any info that she was put down (no info, not even on Slovene Malinois Club page - president of club is also owner and trainer of Aika).
I will drop him an email to check out.
Bye, Raven
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The dog from Slovenia had to be put asleep I heard, because she broke her chest bone and neck joints. The sound of her crying....
Hi!
Got information from owner, Aika is alive but has broken rib, broken tooth and slight injury to her neck. Well at least she will probably one day compete again.
Bye, Raven
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Aika vom Drachenhertz has a broken chestbone and 2 dislocated nekbones but she is stil alive. But the owner don't know if the dog has after al psychological problems to work again.
Al contries with IPO sport must do anything - now!
Some months back, many people spoke badly about Bjorn because he opened the Thread. I hope they learned something.
I must say I am very happy to read that the slovenian dog didn't have to be put asleep, but still it is a very sad thing that this many dogs have been injured and will probably not be able to compete in IPO sport again, if not because of the physical injury they have then maybe because they just don't want to attack any more, which is in my opinion totally understandable.
I checked the rumour too, Aika is still alive. Alive and limping, sadly . This weekend on an agility trial I talked to a friend from Croatia and she said that the men from their team were really horrified by the decoys and their work on this WC, especially on 'our' dog.
Putting them in front of a wall and having a little shooting practice would seem a fit punishment to me . Really disgraceful and disgusting, even more so on a WC, where there should be only top judges and decoys! I hope next year here in Slovenia things will go as they should...
Pissed off Bambi
ps: could anyone tell me why I can't see the video clips? The link just opens a new (empty) page.
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Looking at this video might make me reconsider to do a biting sport with my next terv. I would not like to have him be ruined by a decoy who does not know their stuff.
Is there no way to complain to the FMBB?
Saskia
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ps: could anyone tell me why I can't see the video clips? The link just opens a new (empty) page.
Have you installed Windows Media Player? Besides the empty page, Windows Media Player is opened when I click at the link. From there I can watch the video.
I recieved an email from Marko Habic to post here (I will do my best to translate it into english):
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Can you please explain on forum that it is not fair that judge Hari Arcon is being blamed for dogs getting hurt because he did his job on highest level and after he saw decoys he trained them every morning before competition. For this situation blame goes to organizer of WC which suppleyed decoys who did not know how to recieve dogs on all sides and FMBB for not checking decoys before WC. That is why I am considering to sue them.
Saskia if videos donīt work for you download them with right click on links here and save as... than you can probably play them on your computer.
My only thought here is an old one, and I have never thought that ipo should be a mal sport.
I have discussed this with others, and the danger of a dog coming that fast is always going to be present. I thought with the speed of entry that is typically seen in the ring, that eventually people in the mal world would gravitate towards ipo, due to the fact that the money is in that sport.
I feel bad for the owners, and wish all the dogs a speedy recovery. It was very hard to watch the dog cry all the way back to the owner.
Sch was designed as a test for the GSD as a breed test, this breed does not have the nutso drive that you see in mals, and so the courage test was appropriate.
While ring has it's share of crashes, I have not heard of that many dogs being hurt.
Hello, I was there and I have to say, that firstly it was very poore work of helpers. They seems to be affraid of dogs and cannot work with them. Therefore many dogs were injured. I cannot understand, why so poore helpers were choosen for such prestigeous event? I was very sadly because of organization of whole event. The czech competitor with Octavius have to wait long time for veterinarian and they even refused him to make x-ray, told that at Sunday it is not possible Owner had to go home (over 1000 km) and made x-ray and CT checking here. Octavius has serious injury - You should see at his website www.octaviusmalidaj.cz
I know, that there is allways very easy to make critics, but I have some (not small) experience with organization of big events and I was really very sadly, how this one was managed. It was not only at IPO, but unfortunately, IPO dogs were the ones, who paid by own health
The question if IPO is dangerous or not is very very difficult. Every type of working has some powerfulls and some risks. And also some RULES. My question is another: Is there similary number of injured dogs on another highest events in IPO?
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. This weekend on an agility trial I talked to a friend from Croatia and she said that the men from their team were really horrified by the decoys and their work on this WC, especially on 'our' dog. 
. Really disgraceful and disgusting, even more so on a WC, where there should be only top judges and decoys! I hope next year here in Slovenia things will go as they should... 
